This is a first - I published a face a couple of hours ago. It was successfully published and I have syncs and even a comment, yet it never showed up on the Fresh Faces list.
There seem to be odd things happening with these lists -The Top Charts Free 100 list has been moving extremely slow for about a month now (nothing like normal) and that is also odd.
I’m not putting in a ticket - just a heads up.
I’ve given up looking for my face in the New Face listing. They haven’t been showing up there for quite some time.
They are showing but, but it is random - probably to prevent the members who were spamming by posting multiple images within minutes/hours. Sadly, it is people who follow the rules who suffer because of those who abuse privileges. Keep an eye on your design in there daily. They do move around.
I think I figured it out. The watch I released early in the day was one that kept being rejected due to that “conversation failure”. I gave up on it for a couple of days, then today tried to delete some things that I thought might be a problem. Then I tried it again and it was accepted - with the weird part that it never showed up on the Fresh Faces. It is the 1st time that this has ever happened to me since joining so it was quite odd. And it’s not like I released several of the same watch in different colors.
“Sadly, it is people who follow the rules who suffer because of those who abuse privileges.” - What rules are you speaking of, I’m curious?
In any case I just released another and everything was normal. I was really just wondering if this had happened to just me or if others had experienced it.
Just checked on the new face listings for the face I published last night, low and behold there it was. First time that’s happened in a long time!!
Some of you may recall that the community was swamped with spam. Apparently other parts of Facer were affected too. Facer had to put in mitigation actions. Could well be that this has side effects on the fresh face list…
The rules of not spoiling things for others - you might not find this written down in simple language, but im sure its in the legalese somewhere. I do believe spamming and porn levels are much, much lower - so something is working.
A post from Facebook - I am STILL trying to publish this watchface, but Facer keeps telling me it failed conversion and saves it as a draft. BUT now for 8 times in a row Facer sends me an email telling me it’s published and I should share it. I’ve contacted Facer Support and have heard nothing as usual.
So here is what is happening at least “sometimes”. The watches we post don’t show up on the Fresh Faces list because of the conversation error. However, It does show up there for an instant before being taken away. Your followers see the face and can sync it and like it (if they happen to be observant of their notifications). This happened to that one face I referenced at the start of this thread but I didn’t know what I do now. When I later got it to be accepted with (NO conversation errors) it again did not show up because it was technically already published. I saw afterwards that it said published 3 days ago when you would normally see a few minutes ago. So this is not a bot cracking down on spam and nudity - I see those still going through. It is an issue with the software and it should totally reject the face if it’s going to save it as a draft.
Today after a CV, I shortened to description to just a few words and then it took, the second try, so I believe the key is all in the description not in any codes.
That sounds frustrating. It looks like a bug on Facer’s side or maybe in your watch face/publishing. I’d recommend opening a support ticket and tagging the Facer representative here on the forum, they usually respond faster. For now, keeping the description very short and avoiding any words that might trigger the AI (Melvin) seems to be the safest workaround. Hopefully they sort this out soon.
Even more frustrating for poor Rusty who tried 8 times!
Its normally related to formulas or if statements not in the opacity field which make a watch fail conversion. If you share an inspection draft i would take a look?
Not with mine - it failed only once then I shortened the description, then it went right through all in 2 minutes.
I can make an educated guess at why this happens here, there, and everywhere. In general, spammers include as much content as will fit in their posts (links, phone numbers, addresses, details of their services, etc.). It’s free advertising for them. Limiting the amount of text is a step toward curbing spam.
Well that makes sense because when I shorten my descriptions, they pass. It also make sense that it’s called a “conversation failure”. The description is a conversation to your followers/interested users. I’m not sure why some here feel it’s a coding thing.
The sad thing is - we can’t describe out faces in the detail we may want to, so it hurts us designers. It’s too bad that Facer can’t instead program Marvin to detect phone numbers (any longer grouping of numbers than 2 or 3 for example) and other means to actually detect spammers. I never realized it was such a big problem.
I never realized it was such a big problem.
At all communities in many cases the spam is handled by filters and moderators before many users see it. It’s a 24/7 fact of life. Unfortunately, bad guys are always one step ahead. Therefore, being proactive with automated systems can help, but nice guys suffer – as all of us have noticed with designs being removed and our not being able to describe our work as we’d like to.
I think many of us have concluded over time that probably more than 90% of users don’t look at the info/instruction photos or read the descriptions. So shortening the descriptions isn’t as much of a loss as we might think.