# How to change where 12 o'clock really is

I have a great idea for a watch face that I’m hoping to build today and tomorrow so I can have it on April Fools day. What I need to know how to do is reassign where 12:00 is. So if I wanted the hour of 12:00 to be at 10:00 and the minute 00 to be at the 10 mark, how would I accomplish that? All of the formulas I have are for arcs and setting the degree of the rotation, but I want this one to go a full 360, but just start somewhere different. Thanks for your help!!

This is the dial I am trying to sort out. I need at noon for the 12 to be at 10:00 and the 00 to be at the 10 mark. The second hand can be wherever, but I guess that should start at the 10:00 mark as well. Kinda crazy, huh?

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@anthony1,
10:00 is -60 degrees (left) off the 12:00 vertical centerline. For your graphics just rotate everything in the Creator to -60 (or 300). For your formulas just take all of your formula final outputs and subtract 60.

-John

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Whenever I rotate anything in facer, it stops functioning like a hand. Can it be done just with a formula? Thanks for your help!

I think I got it figured out. Thanks for your help! I appreciate you being so willing to share your knowledge here. I learn so much from your posts!

yes @anthony1 so if you are using the smooth movement for the minute hand #DWFMS# that is going to calculate the degrees for you and move the hand smoothly in time. Top of the hour is 0-degrees, 5 minutes past is 30-degrees, 10 past is 60, 15 past is 90 and so on. So just subtract 60: (#DWFMS# - 60) . Dont forget the parens() or it wont work.

-John