I'm losing my hopes and you?

No sir. It was aimed at Batwolf. Not sure why it doesn’t show that, maybe because I was on mobile?

Amen! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :pleading_face: :cowboy_hat_face:

Cool :facepunch:

He truly is a kind man with very generous offerings of advice that bring us understanding with peace and love. We must accept it and feel the passion in which he writes. He has enlightened us beyond human comprehension and for that I am truly grateful. Very kind man with advice that must be accepted. I truly hope he remembers where he put his cat. (see kind man’s user name).

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Well… I confirm that I don’t know anyone here and I’m not giving or receiving favors from anyone here… I’m just having fun with faces :slightly_smiling_face:

Being here only by about a month, I won’t enter in any discussion of this kind, I can only say what my experience is. The only thing I want is keeping having fun with faces.

See you all!

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And that‘s exactly the right spirit!

We are here to have fun with facing.

This verbal shotgun shooting at everyone with another opinion get‘s simply boring and doesn‘t lead to anything beside embarrassment.

The world is no pony farm and has faults, that‘s simply life. Nobody is better than another, so live and let live. We are all different human beings, with different skills and abilities - no one can judge what‘s best.

I personally always appreciated explanations tips and advices a lot, especially from people with more knowledge or/and experience - but not everyone does and that‘s okay for me.
It‘s a free gift and you can decide wether you want to use it or not. My intention in the past was always to try to help to eventually explain some things, nothing more.

Believe what you may believe… get your own conclusions. They must not be right or wrong, when you have no proven facts it‘s not worth talking about these things.

The world is already full enough with untenable babbling and conspiracy theories, we definitely don‘t need more of them, it‘s tiring.

Now you may fire your shotgun in my direction, but before you push the trigger you should think about if i tell the truth.

Have a nice evening altogether and let‘s have fun in creating unique personal artwork.

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I really don’t understand that you all like the way things are going here? From this damned top 100 to this forum, which is already overgrown with weeds and nobody cares. Like the fact that the designers are leaving, that the community consists only of partners and a few crazies with nowhere to go. People leave the place because it’s not interesting, it’s not evolving. It doesn’t support talented people. It’s as boring as a graveyard.
Just don’t start the mantra that there are watch-face enthusiasts here who really enjoy making them.
The problem is not mutual firing, the problem is that nothing happens after firing either, and nothing at all without firing.
If the partners don’t need to promote this community and aren’t interested in change, I understand them from a pragmatic point of view. Maybe you just can’t, but most likely you don’t want to, you have plenty of other things to do. The main support is in commenting on the watch face, which would be better to criticise positively so that one learns style, elementary norms of visual design, colour schemes. Instead of creating 1,000 watch faces with the same mistakes.

I can understand your points, @lucky.andrei.

You are right, there is not much happening in the forum right now, but this is nothing new. I already noticed this fact when i started here 3 years ago.

At the moment i can tell from my point of view that i don‘t want to visit it very often because of all the poisoned hate speech and the extremely personal verbal attacks on people who don‘t deserve this treatment. In my experiences at the past everyone helped each other here with every technical or design problems, partner or not.

At the moment i see whining pussies making mimimi about the system, feeling themelves as selfdefined rebels fighting it.

Just to be clear: I am not a brown nose, none of the partner is. Whoever is talking such a nonsens is a poor idiot in my eyes.

We are in fact all freelancers and have a respectful and friendly manner to communicate with each others and the CEO of facer. And we already adressed a lot of problems. But - it‘s not up to us to make the rules.

Years ago i was hoping to get a partner as well and nothing happened but i didn‘t spit poison around like a wounded snake. I adressed it friendly, asked a few times and it finally happened.

Do you think Facer invites people behaving antisocial? People that can‘t work in a team? People constantly fighting the system aggressively? I wouldn‘t if i were them.

I really would love to have moderated boards here, with admins that have rights to close threads and/or kick trolls. If Facer don‘t wants it, it‘s as well their decision. I can tell that it wasn‘t neccessary in the past…

We already adressed this point a couple of times to the CEO and he didn‘t want to. Why? I don‘t know, but that‘s his business. Maybe it‘s up to us to clean this wilderness, to make it a nice place again where people only help each others and have fun instead of whining and fighting.

I think when we do, there can return more life here. ImhO other partners leaved the forum exactly for the same reasons. It‘s not worth the time and effort to help when you know that the ones you want to help don‘t wants it and only wants to attack you personal, thowing it all in the trash.

About the Facer Top 100 Charts:

Again. It‘s their decision to change or not. I think they should have already noticed all the complaints.

And this complaints have been from partners as well.

So maybe you see that we are in the same team. We don‘t like it as well in some points the way it is - in the forum, in the Top100.

But it‘s not everything bad and the partners definitely are not the ones you should aim at.

I am happy with the fact that we all have a platform to create beautiful designs for free, that we have a forum to communicate with each other. A forum where you are able to help each other.

I am with you in thinking that the forum should evolute but this evolution mainly depends on the people itself in the community.

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From the text that follows, I frankly don’t see the understanding

OK, I get it, you noticed it three years ago. But you took it for granted that there was nothing to be done about it, nothing new to be done.
I noticed it six months ago when people I was in contact with started disappearing. And nobody, at first glance, seemed to care.

It is very strange that instead of solving the problem, one prefers to hide from it. Since you are already addressing me, why didn’t you voice your grievances about my inappropriate communication with someone on the forum? I haven’t, if I’m not mistaken, called anyone a goat or allowed myself to make remarks about the origins of his design and his design skills. If you don’t understand my English or my humour, it would also be a good idea to point that out, rather than saying something already when the bubble has inflated and burst.

Since you don’t visit the forum, you don’t know that people are still being helped here to solve their technical and design problems. Only now other people are doing it.

I prefer to be told directly to my face, am I the one who makes mimimi about the system?

If so, you don’t know how to separate constructive criticism from jibber-jabber. I criticise the system and I know what needs to be done. But no one asks that, do they? Everyone hopes for Big Brother, who sees everything, reads everything. Everyone hopes for three years that he will solve something. This is called passivity and is apparently due to something.

Have I insulted Facer’s CEO yet too? Did I set fire to Notre Dame de Paris, by any chance?

I had hoped not to at least get that partnership phrase from you. But nothing new has happened. As soon as I entered the post about the top 100, I was immediately told that I was only writing because I wasn’t there and I wanted to get there. This is a consumerist and prejudiced attitude towards people; it is called cutting everyone into the same mould. Immediately after that they started suspecting that I was only writing here because I hadn’t received a partnership. Have I asked questions about my partnership anywhere on the forum? Have I ever whined about it? Why, if for you, getting a partnership is the ultimate achievement of your life, and based on that you think it’s the same for everyone else? There is no other reason, is there? You are all fixated on partnership.

You just casually insulted a yellow guy in passing.

Yes, it is better to take someone who can be active and lively than passive and hiding from problems. About teamwork. I don’t see teamwork here at all. I at least tried to get people involved, organise competitions, organise everyone’s help if I didn’t know how to solve tag problems. And who is anti-social after that? The one who accepts the opinion of his social circle or the one who tries to expand this circle?

Yeah, I agree. It’s always better to burn someone at the stake or hang them from a stake. To teach others a lesson. I’d rather hang them by the balls so everyone can see how they suffer. Burn them all out and all that’s left is nice and sweet people who wilt like flowers if you say “Fuck” in front of them.

I have nothing to say about this except. Love to all and fall on my knees and weep with tenderness :crazy_face:

Lucky andre or aka the matrix architect
Muzzle actually is a whole different meaning which is in latin status quo
Which is also a name of a rock band lol so you wrote the song the horsemen of the apocalypse one of your light hearted songs
Dare i say prophetic poet aka
Promoting your band will score lol no points here
-i dont know what im talking about sir i am a humble CAVEMAN

To gaus you surprise me each time i see you write in the comments-
You are a role model hmmm
I too started a post complaining about likes and followers i regret that so much i hate complainers sometimes you get caught up with your feelings and you believe them to be right but they are sometimes wrong believe it or not my instincts betrayed me it was just a waste of everyones time and at the end of the post i admitted i was wrong-so it gets you nowhere to complain

I don‘t meant you personally, @lucky.andrei. Not in any of the cases.

I was talking about the overall situation.

And one disbehaving member in special :slight_smile:

I know you only want to have a better forum, a fairer Top100, more participating users and/or partners. I have no problem with you although some users may not speak/write/read that perfect sarcasm and ironic you can. I was speaking of direct offending people…

But one thing i don‘t understand… i read a lot of all discussions/threads… imhO no one burnt anyone for his own opinion. All that i saw were people trying to give some help, it‘s up to a person how he feels about getting tips/help, well meant advices. We are definitely no watch face gods or something else silly, we only wanted to join the discussion to help. It was imhO not us getting personal and offensive…

This is no witch hunt but when someone would give me the tip: „You better should take of copyright infringing material before getting kickedass“ then this is a good advice.

I know because i once was in exactly this position. At the beginning i made some Tag Heuers and Breitlings and published them. But after that very nice and friendly advice i started thinking about it and found it a very good advice. Everyone knows when he/she is creating criminal stuff like that, is aware that he/she could get caught and kicked after several cases… when you go on with it you have to take the consequences, am i right?

Maybe i am guilty in not doing that much in the forum - but i do have a life, a job, a wife, a family, a house to run… and create watch faces (ok-last one is personal fun).

But - do i have to manage this forum? Is it my duty to keep it full and busy? People come and go… who am i to tell them what to do?

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If you will add the text to the previous post, then I will lose the thread of the story.

Regarding copyright advice, yes it’s fine to get a warning and then it’s the responsibility of that person who is clearly infringing those rights.

The only thing I want to make clear is that good, helpful advice should be backed up by reasoning, only it makes people think, not get offended and get into a frenzy.

The top 100, for example. You can clearly see that in one top someone has tried to cross a cow and a horse. That’s me talking about Apple and the rest of the watch faces. It was enough to admit it, because it is a fact. They are not comparable in terms of number of synchronicities, which means that there is an algorithm that allows two top-100s to be combined in one top-100, why not another internal top-100 in this case? It was enough to move the conversation in a constructive direction, acknowledging something and not to turn to personal ambitions about partnership.

As long as this “How to become a partner” is on the website, you have to expect every month that someone’s hopes are crumbling, while the process of being accepted as a partner continues.

No, you don’t have to manage this forum. It’s clear that you can’t do that and neither can any of the partners. But neither can the Facer team. The last time a moderator was on this forum was in January this year, and that was only to post some sort of post. Some of the still living moderators were here last August. This is an abnormal situation. You have to accept the reality and shift the task to someone else if you are clearly not up to the task.
Yes, I know they will try to put things in order here, but it’s too late to do so. It should be handled by someone who knows the life of this forum, who knows who and when posted something here. Only he can create a comfortable structure, fix certain topics for help and so on. The Facer team cannot do that because they are not involved in the life of the forum. At best, someone will get banned and that will be the end of it.

I think you are a fkn hypocrite. You come in here and say things like " That’s the spirit!" “Just have fun helping others and not use verbal shotgun shooting at others”, but yet you use words like “pussies” “idiots”. The only pussies I see in here are the partners like you who act like they are above everyone else. What you people don’t seem to understand, if someone asks for tips or help then yes, give it, but to continually give it out to people who have not asked for it or need it you come across as snobby a-holes.
Especially giving advice to people who are talented and don’t need it. Some partners work is not that great to be pushing advice, some look like they need tips and help themselves. The embarrassment is here is you partners acting like a bunch of spoiled brats and spewing BS all because you can’t accept someone has a different opinion of a fkd up rigged system. Don’t tell users what face to take down or put up. If Facer doesn’t take it down then it’s good. I want some partners to take down some of their faces that look like they copied big brands. What I see here is a lot of jealousy and envy and hypocrites. These forums are a complete waste of time and just a lot of back and forth BS with way overrated so-called partners.

Without using any snarky vocabularly I can be concise in reminding you that there are only 2 rules to follow in order to get along around here:

  1. Be nice to people.
  2. Follow the rules.
    Ask yourself if you have followed either of them during your visit to Facer. You have insulted me and criticized my work but have not given me any suggestions on how to improve.
    I would really appreciate some positive constructive criticism. That would be more in line with what this community is for.
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That‘s a brilliant idea. Show us that you are able to give positive, constructive and helpful criticism.

Yes, brilliant idea. My tip is to follow your own rules.

This isn‘t very helpful at all. Please clarify. In which way are we not following the rules. Which rules?

Btw… i think @Linlay was asking for constructive critics about her watch face design…

Yes, some specifics would help.

Since you asked, the majority of your designs look the same (very flowery) Try mixing it up. I understand you are trying to appeal to the ladies with the flowers but it’s very redundant. I think your font selection can definitely be better. You use a lot of serif fonts which may work for some faces but not all. Your color schemes are way off as well. Most of your faces are very basic in design, maybe try adding more info like calories, miles and more weather details like wind speed, humidity…etc. Try adding more design elements on some as well. Let me know what else I can help you with. I would be more than happy to give you more help if you ask for it.

Btw, I never insulted or criticized your designs. I said they were almost all “flowery”. If you take that as an insult then I can’t help you there. But you did go on my page first and insulted one of my faces.

And my last tip to is to be nice to all members whether they are partners or not and don’t give advice if they don’t ask for it. Not everyone likes that.

I believe I replied to Linlay. Was not replying to you, but if you want some advice or help, I can help you too.