We are all sick of all these clones in the free TOP 100 and i think the @Facer-Staff has to react soon because some of these users are acting massivly against the TOS of Facer, beside the copyright violation to the brand owners.
A few month ago the swiss watch association already went to court because of this problem with smart watch faces. This could become a very expensive thing…
Swatch got pissed at Samsung… and as long Swatch owns 85% of all Swiss made brands they went to court and failed… Putting a well-known design on a cheap electronic watch is not making a fake…
What is a fake is using a Logo, name or protected element of an well know brand… For example the design of an Rolex watch is free to use, the shape of the well know “mercedes” hand is oke, using the Crown and Name are not oke…
Right now the whole top 100 is full with all those violations… Seiko seems free to use and many more names… but also they use of Marvel, Disney and many many other elements seems fine as long Facer can get traffic from it.
Fact is however, those designs are what people want, that’s why they are in the top 100 and those clown faces not…
A while ago some dude did try an poll to figur out what people like in a watchface… Those well kow brands did that 100 year ago and that is why so many people copy that style… and for the active part of an smartwach… every watch comes with a perfect set of those.
I Only did design replica faces (Nolekx) and people seems to like them more than fatality sniper, combat or tactical faces… mostly for just being functional…
Facer should do things better and approve a face BEFORE publishing it… and yes that cost time and yes time is expensive but that is how you run things if you want to do it well… It’s damm lame saying it’s not possible to remove the Faces by hand… the site is full with brand names and it will take no longer that a week to get rid of them all if you put 2 people o it it’s done in half the time…
But it seems Facer still depends on the traffic those popular faces generate for them…
I don‘t think that’s the reason and i am sure that facer knows they must handle this soon. They already installed this new sniffing tool. It‘s not working perfect now but the will keep on developing it. But i am totally with you that they should set in some sort of intern watch face police…
Hey @Rator,
This may not be entirely related but Facer’s auto-scanning tool, as you know, scans all sorts of brand names, not just wristwatch brands. One of your Frogman faces is named “Bombardier”.
If you’re not aware, Bombardier is a very large Canadian aircraft and transportation manufacturer (train systems, subway cars, etc). In the Aerospace industry, Bombardier is a household name with the likes of Boeing and Lockheed. (They say it “Bom-BAR-dee-yay”)
It only caught my eye because at my work we make structural aircraft components, wings, cones, turbine inlets, pods, gunner doors, etc, and we do business with these types of folks - Boeing, Sikorsky, Bombardier, Gulfstream, HondaJet, Lockheed Martin, and so on.
So I know you said you never said BMW, but you clearly said Bombardier. …might be a red flag.
-John
It takes a while to train the filters. Even after you think they are doing their jobs, something will slip through. Just follow the rules and be patient with FP’s.
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Thank you very much for your nice speculations about how “partners” think and behave…@prinspils1966. This time i take it personal.
For your information: I personally informed the Facer staff about all the copyright violations in the TOP 100, immediately this morning after i saw the posting and did some research about which members create all that clone stuff.
And i can assure you that the other partners are as well not delighted about all that cloning…
But to be honest, i think it´s of no matter what we answer … you simply seem to have to much spare time and love to use it for trolling here. All you want to do is, in my honest opinion, offending people and/or the company.
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Shit, I didn’t mean to restart anything. I’m just kinda new here and wanted to know if there was something they were going to do about it, or if there was something I can do about it.
Thanks for everyone’s feedback.
I guess my issue is how can they flag my face for infringement on the BMW brand (which btw, the only way it resembles the brand in any way could be that it uses a similar color blue?!) when faces like the ones you just posted above are BLATANTLY violating the TOS and make the top 100.
My face still hasn’t been addressed by Facer Support BTW. It’s been 2 days.
So if they can catch MINE with NO violations, why aren’t they catching these with OBVIOUS violations?
Would it help if we all click the gear button on the offenders faces and report them? I had to do that the other day with a watch that featured Hentai porn. It was immediately removed.
Hey jmorga106, thanks for that info. I was unaware of that brand.
The word Bombardier is actually a military rank since the 1500’s, and that is how I intended it.
That was not the piece in question however.
Here’s a jpeg of the one that got deactivated, can anyone see why it might infringe on BMW? I don’t have the text I wrote for the description.
I hear complaints at large worldwide tech companies with millions of customers. Some of the complaints about not listening to customers and buggy software are quite similar, actually. I think Facer is doing well fixing things considering the size of the staff. It’s not their responsibility to be transparent to you about everything. My concern has been the cut and paste Google Images (artwork) that show up in Featured and in the Top 100. It’s frustrating to have something you’ve spent days on sitting next to something that someone took 20 minutes to do. Copyrighted artwork is even harder to monitor than known brand names. Yes, it takes human interaction 24/7. As a company grows, presumably so will the staff. My suggestion to you is to spend time elsewhere and return in the future after the staff has had more time to fix all the things that you are unhappy with.
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No clue on this one. Looks fine to me and actually nice. Did you upload any image files? What were the file names?
Hi @Rator - somebody in our team is looking into this but it’s looking like the bolt at the top of your watch face may have been what triggered the BMW logo detection, which is obviously a false-positive.
Your face will be re-activated shortly. We are fine-tuning our detection system to avoid this in the future. Thanks for your patience!
Ah ha! OMG that’s crazy.
Thanks for getting back to me, I appreciate it!
And thanks for the compliments eradicator09! I went back to check the file names and the naming convention I used was “F_DIVE_bg.png” for example.
Thanks again to everyone for your help!
also I can’t really see with the hands in the way but if the face says DIVEMASTER or DIVE MASTER, those are actual Victorinox / Swiss Army mechanical watches.
-John
Yeah, it’s Divemaster, but a divemaster is a guy who organizes scuba dives also. It triggered the system cause of the little nugget at the top. Because it is a shiny metal dot, the reflections made it look like the BMW logo.
Thanks everyone, it’s back up and sitting at 38 right now.
I feel like the system needs some serious reprogramming if it’s catching that 4mm bean as the BMW logo and not things like this. (which is at 10 right now)
Seems my watchface has also been flagged for BMW copyright infringement with my take on the Knight Rider watch. I don’t believe BMW own the rights to Knight Rider, but Facer staff re-activated the watch, but when I tried to publish again next day, it got deactivated immediately. I know I didn’t give them much time to sort the issue, but it seems this issue may have been around quite along time.
I’ve attached some screen shots of the watchface and the publish screen. If you can spot anything obvious why this watch might infringe BMW copyright, please post a comment!
Funnily enough my other watch face which was very similar except it had no date elements was able to be published fine
```Intresting. Normaly a face gets taken down for something in the description. Marvin ( the Bot ) has bad days. I must ask you to change your Habits and Duplicate your Face Before you publish it with a Revision Number. I have to be honest when I get something taken down these days I am never surprised. That is what you get for being prevocative.
Did they give you a reason on appeal ?
