How to become a Premium Designer and sell your watch face designs on Facer

Hey @MadisonLastrega,

So I think about this topic A LOT and I have drawn a few strange conclusions. These are my own opinions (not advice!) but feel free to comment or tell me I’m wrong - no problem.

There’s tons of extremely talented people here who have mad design skills, mad artistic skills, and mad mathematical skills. The result of that are watches with beautiful designs, tremendous concepts, and crazy engineering. But what’s missing on many of these is a consideration of the audience. Most of the GENERAL PUBLIC are not designers, not artists, and not engineers. So while a lot of us may have 30 and even 40 hours of work in a watch face created, the sad truth is that much of the common public really doesn’t care.

It sounds like you have some awesome graphics software that you are invested in, but the raw truth is that 2D drawing tools like PhotoShop and Illustrator are more than adequate to develop awesome designs. I understand the 3D beauty of tools like Maya, Blender, SolidWorks, but the cost of the tool is lost in only 2-dimensions, and most watchfaces aren’t more than 1.5". So intricate detail is also lost - it’s just too small to see well. I’m reminded of some guitarist who brings his (or her) $4,500 Les Paul Custom to a bar gig. Yeah, there may be a couple of music experts in the crowd with very finely tuned ears, but most of the crowd is just drunk. As long as the guitar makes noise most don’t care beyond that.

Next, is a watch design “commercially viable on a large scale”? Meaning, even if you spend hours and hours on it, will you get to that 3000 sync level? Well you really need to understand the market, trends, and popularity for that. This is the market part of the design. An example: If Smart Watches existed in 1989 as they do today and you were licensed to make a Debby Gibson watchface, it would probably have hit the 10,000 sync level back then - no problem. Today, most people don’t even know who Debby Gibson was. She was a wildly popular music-star like Katy Perry and others are today.

My last point is the materialistic nature of most people (it seems). I made one watch - very simple - took little time - that looks a lot like the Breitling Navitimer watches that run in the $5000-$7000 range for the real ones. It is my most popular watch approaching 6,000 syncs this week. Why? I believe for many people, being seen wearing a Breitling-looking watch is more important. Let me say that again… for them, BEING SEEN wearing the watch is more important than just wearing it. Not everybody is like this obviously, but certainly the popularity of this watch speaks to this element of social phenomenon. Breitling, Rolex, these are house-hold names. Same idea with women’s accessories… Gucci, Coach… Why would someone buy a $1200 pair of Jimmy Choo shoes or a $400 pair of Maui Jim sunglasses when they can buy cheap knock-offs in Chinatown that “look pretty close” for $30. I think you really have to consider this type of thinking as well if you’re trying to hit big sync numbers with your watch designs. Of course, I realize this is “selling out” for high-quality watchface artists. Your art skills and the Facer watch functions and feature TAGS are highly important - but dont discount these social aspects I mentioned above.

so yes! build those crazy watches that do all sorts of wonderful things and have incredible artwork. but I think your portfolio should include some of these social-bait watches as well just to even out your offerings.

HTH,
John

15 Likes

I call BS show me three faces without premium features that achieved 3000 syncs in 30 days, some of the best faces on their app have not achieved that the entire time up there

3 Likes

Good points. Indeed, I understand exactly what your saying. yeah my best face currently is a replica of a real clock… Im doing a few of them infact… but I cant see my self doing rolex knock offs to reach my goal… If I cant do this as an artist I’ll just erase all my work from facer, and carry my work to another face producer before I do that… I just liked the facer community and thought this would be a great way to share great beauty to the world… I will continue to use Maya… I know it takes longer to create but, you cant knock the quality…Ill try to be more generic and lame… no wait , no I wont… I’ll do more replicas though… I like them and of course I will contiue to make some bombs that dont get any syncs… and some that are truly works of art… and for the ones whom appreciate art , they will love my watch faces and be honored to wear them… and for the ones that want a Gucci clone there are plenty of artist to make those…

Thanks for the chat… I know your right, truly I do. I have owned my software LOOOOONG before I started making these.
I make these for me. I want to eventually sell them, but I just cant make anything less than my best… PS Im new at this too guy… only started this Febuary, and when people do notice (and they will) I will be my OWN Rolex or Gucci… Best wishes and many awesome faces in the future… PSS I checked your suff… Very nice by the way.

2 Likes

Here are some screen shots:



Here you have their links:


As you can see other ones are getting closer too, like Premise Right - trial version (2067), or URWERK EMC Black (2197) and URWERK UR-1001 ZEIT DEVICE (2788)

4 Likes

John, well put! For clarity your watch with 6K syncs, over what period of time, I’m guessing it wasn’t one week, because if it was then I’m amazed, i’m still impressed with 6K just curious how long it took to reach?

great examples of what is possible and beautiful interpretations of some really quirky watches - still in awe of the Devon Tread! Keep up the good work

1 Like

Hey @hayden,
I think that’s since January!

John

1 Like

wow that’s impressive

In case there was a need to prove a point:

2 Likes

If I can not be a designer, I will delete all clocks. :frowning:

Hi, One of my face reached 3000 sync in less than a month of its publication. And now, what’s next to become a Premium? Tks

You need 2 next ones (3 in total).
Then you can manually file a request.

1 Like

I deleted all. …

Hi, all. I have had one watch face hit 12600 syncs and another 2800, I’m hoping one of the others will be up there soon also.

How do I manually file a request?

Cheers

On the top you can find a link.

Oh yeah, should have looked a little closer. Thanks

Hi there guys i share John point of view, although I’m all in to autocad at work with the ability to crate 3d objects and the sort
I don’t see my self putting uncountable hrs working on a virtual design, unless I had been doing it to make the real deal meaning a real mechanical time piece, but i prefer to just enjoy the time and share my ideas and crazy or amazing designs with the facer community.
and i might not reach the goal since i prefer to use my own logo and publishing name “Cuckoo” on my watch faces :slight_smile:

3 Likes

This 3 times 3000 syncs in such a short time is nothing else than a bad joke to me.
Everybody should be able to decide from the first watch face, if he wants to offer it for free or if he wants to sell it.
ZEUS did it right.

4 Likes

It’s not always 3x3000. I only had 1x3500 and about 5x2000-2500 and they reached out to me.
Just make the best faces and you will become a premium designer.

4 Likes

@Facer_Official

How can someone become a Premium Designer nowadays??
Is impossible to achieve 3000 downloads within a month with 15k faces around?!?
Those 3k should be reviewed in my opinion.

You cannot forget that the Premium designer faces come always on top.

3 Likes