I think only the Manufacturers UI work like that so each watch you Design for you have to learn their Platform . I am on my second Samsung one . At one stage I felt I had enough of leaning different Languages on Different Platforms and along comes another . The Language for Watchmaker was developed in Brazil I believe . So at least on Facer you get to see what is popular across a range of watches without having to work on Twenty different UI .
The only language I learned to speak aside from English was Chinese. As far as all these programming languages go, I have just become a really good “cutter/paster/keep hitting it till it does what you want” kinda guy.
I don’t like WFS for another reason: I cannot share my work with others.
I like sharing it, if someone else likes it - great.
I also like seeing other people work and downloading watchfaces that I like.
As far as I know we cannot do that with WFS.
Either you make it for yourself or you can try to sell it.
You can share your .wfs files no problem, there is just no live preview of it, until you open it in the program it self. And I do not want to promote the .be webpage where people share all possible, often branded faces…
just stop making,i always stay in comunity in case of help
That, and the fact that they just steal other people’s work too.
I began my smart watch and watch face design journey with Watchmaker. I spent a couple of years there before ever trying Facer. For me because I always made made all my own graphics in Photoshop, it was only the assembly and coding experience that was substantially different. Because it was what I was used to I did appreciate the convenience of being able to assemble and test code from my phone. Though I always wished for an option for a PC interface. So when I switched to Facer it took a little getting used to having only PC option to assemble and publish.
But now I’ve been 100% Facer for 3 years and I don’t miss the phone option at all. Overall the workflow for me from blank Photoshop file to finished watch face is much more efficient than it was on watchmaker. I can not deny that being in the partner program adds another level of appreciation for Facer, but I think I can still be objective too. End the end I think both apps have the capacity to create similarly featured watch faces. So the biggest and most important difference to me between the two is the overall experience. And for that Facer wins in a landslide for 3 or 4 simple important reasons.
The app, designs, and designer pool are far better. The app is better looking, better organized, more current, and constantly being improved and updated. If I glance at the WM app now, a lot of the same “premium” faces are still populating the top of their featured lists that were ther when I left 3 years ago! They have a very small pool of “partner” designers and though a couple of them are talented and make great faces, they just don’t have anywhere close the catalogue and variety of quality designs as found on Facer.
the developers. The WM developer was absolutely unresponsive and there was no sense of any outreach to the user base ever. Though he seemed to continue to introduce flashy bells and whistles to the app, more basic substantive flaws or deficiencies went unaddressed. Sure, Facer support can feel slow sometimes too, but the developers have consistently shown an involvement with the community and a desire to improve their support system, and through here or the Slack channel have made themselves accessible to their user base. The Facer developers are also committed to constantly growing and improving the app and it shows.
community! Facer has this forum, the FB group, IG, and a slack channel. Each is active and communal in its own way (well the slack channel is usually sleepy). Community is encouraged and facilitated by Facer rather than being left to the users to build for themselves.
quality and originality! The stylistic range of the designers in the partner program is vast and there are many very active designers constantly producing new original creative designs. There are also many designers not in the partner program who produce high quality faces. Facer also has many brand partnerships, both with real watch companies, but also brands like Star Trek, Ninja Turtles, or entities like NASA. The official watches from these partnerships always end up at the top of the charts so I guess a lot of people appreciate those. I like that Facer encourages and rewards originality. Partner or not, high quality creative original work will get noticed and featured in the app and their social media. The best faces on WM were always from the active replica community, original designs were secondary. Facer is all about the original designs. To me there is absolutely no comparison in the range, originality and quality of the Faces found between the two apps.
In the end, if you want replica faces of real brands then definitely WM. If you are just someone making faces for yourself (original or replica) and that’s all you want out of a watch face experience, then it doesn’t matter which app you use, you can accomplish that with either. But if your hobby or interest or aspirations with watch faces goes beyond that then I think Facer is the much superior platform.
I think you hit my viewpoint on the head - I make faces solely for myself, so that makes WM with it’s portability in making faces ideal for me. I honestly doubt that I’ll give up Facer, but my focus for now is making faces “on the go” so to speak. Honestly, that’s the ONLY thing that attracted me to WM.
All things considered Facer is the best option.
Kvansant review is exaustive vs wm but if you dont pay for creator pro your faces are like a broken toy,no tap,no coustomization color and so on, it’s like a beautiful girl…of your friend ,building a miniseries of same faces just to change colors is a simple example of how annoying it become ,why dont let at least the tap option for free? In WFS you can do things like that just for free
Now they will all go on WFS :::)))
Lol ,nevermind,unless they labels layers ops and i forgot to mention the bigger graphic resolution
" 450 x 450 " . Like most watches these days :::)))
Interesting subject but pretty moot as far as I’m concerned. There is no Chromebook/Linux support for Watchmaker. Also there is the £5.99 charge for the android app.
Yeah. Facer did not ask me for my Bank Details when I signed up. That is the action of Pirates. That is as far as I got with Watchmaker. Insulting in this day and age. Any way each to his own. If you can design someting nice on your Phone that is the place for you. I do wonder if it works on an Android Tablet. But I suppose it has to be on the Paired Mobile.
I’m pretty sure that was for selling faces on WM via Google, and that’s ALL Google asking for that information.
I never knew how to create a watch face until I came to Facer. Everything I know about making faces I learned from inspecting faces by @mrantisocialguy and everyone’s help on this forum. With that considered, I’ll never actually leave Facer, but I’ll probably make more faces with WM than Facer, just because I’m basically lazy!
One major complaint against WM in regards to complications is that it wants to put any complication you use on every face that you have. I’ve had to do some creative coding to hide it from faces that don’t use it.
Although, my wife did just buy me a new Lenovo Yoga laptop that would basically make using Facer the same as WM on a tablet.
Dang it! Now I’m talking myself out of my own plan!
@kd7eir . Have a look at Watch Face Studio in a couple of days you realy will not know which way to turn . In the early days I started doing CAD with a 3 Button Mouse . I have never been able to get away from it .
I tested Facer on my Lenovo Yoga and it works fine. That means that I can enjoy the same portability with Facer that I have with WM.
This removes all concerns that really matter to me in regards to Facer v WM, thus, I’m going nowhere. Your folks are stuck with me, and for that I apologize
I’m looking at WFS, I came across your post about sunrise/sunset, and that greatly worries me, as all of the faces I design feature sunrise/sunset.