I didn’t mean to upset everyone. I just wanted to inform everyone what Facer told me. I’m sure they know what they do and don’t allow. I did read the TOS and it says nothing about accepting donations. It’s like the grocery boy that carries your groceries to the car. You appreciate what he had done. There is no requirement for tipping but you really appreciate what he did for you. Just a good gesture coming from the heart. If someone offers me a donation, it pleases me. I know they really enjoy my faces. By the way @wsilbers, I love a lot of your designs. There are just so many faces hitting at once. I wished maybe Facer would only allow so many publications a day. Then ones face may get more attention. All I can say is if you enjoy what your doing, then that is all that matters.
Hello everybody. Nice topic, but why just a coffee. I want the full diner, yeah first, second and third dish, accompanied by a great Italian wine. But i cook it myself to my taste, pay it myself and eat it myself and others who like it for free. I don’t need/want the money but i can agree that sitting for ever on never challenged rules, can be lethal. A question of time perhaps. Why not listen a bit to others, F - who never get the status of a partner which only F controls and who still want to sell - and agree on a shared income. Impossible? Perhaps F would see a drastic change in sales as do the candidate-sellers. A WIN-WIN, not? For many, money is a kind of recognition for them. F will appreciate that… and they do offer a nice but incomplete platform to my taste as a free face maker. My price is although interaction, how good did i cook it. I am more a Van Gogh type. You can sell my faces, when i am dead.
For everyone accepting so-called “donations” if you need clarification of the TOS ask.
If you do not have time to take requests, politely tell people that. They will understand.
That is a better way to handle it than creating your own prices under the guise of “donations” and earning a violation.
As mentioned above, Facer provides a way to monetize your designs. It is like any job that you interview for. If your qualifications are a good fit in meeting the needs of the business you will be offered the job. There are no shortcuts.
Well, that is indeed the actual situation. Now it is F who solely determines the rules, the needs and the fitting, so it seems. Of yourse, you are partner and feel the need to protect the actual rules and your income I assume, I can understand. But I am talking about a big, surely another group of perhaps frustrated face makers, who want to sell too, not me, but they can’t now unless they seek “buy me coffee” or alternatives, which hurt the business. Therefore we need as a F community to ask ourselves for example, does a buyer buy mainly because it is offered by a partner or because of the face itself, for any face by the way. What is the biggest argument to buy? I think it is the face, fitting the needs of the buyer. So, if that were true, why not adapt the selling policy and allow a shared income between F and any face maker. Seems like a Win-win to me. Perhaps another platform will see this opportunity to have motivated face makers, and that would a loss to all who love to work with Facer.
It doesn’t matter whether I am a partner or not. It is clear to me that a business establishes rules to meet their needs.
As I understand information posted by others in this community, there are other applications that allow profit sharing. Some of the people who collect so-called “tips” at Facer also are monetizing at one or more of those sites.
This is an interesting topic that got run over by another interesting topic.
So, what do people want, and is it OK to ask for tips?
You can attack Facer as a designer in a few directions. One is to make faces for yourself with no care about syncs, rules, copyright infringement, ect. You’ll likely never become a partner but not everyone wants to become a partner, or they just don’t think the journey is worth it.
It is fun to design faces and that can certainly be very rewarding in itself.
Another road is to try to make faces that are original and beautiful but that also fit the demand of what people want to see on their arms. Faces don’t have to be complicated. A lot of people just want a cool looking basic watchface that is “interesting”.
To bash a face or designer because his or her face likely didn’t take as long to create as you feel your’s did is really not fair and immaterial.
This second road does not need to be a road where the goal is to be a partner, but if you don’t follow the rules, use images that you shouldn’t (such as Disney for example), and ask for tips (that you probably shouldn’t), you’re risking ever becoming a partner, so why risk that?
You choose what your goals are and then consider what to do to get there. If you have no goals just have fun and don’t worry about anything.
Good points, thomasfmall!
Actually, that may not be true about never becoming a partner. I joined Facer long before I was invited to be a partner. I never bothered with sync counts and didn’t find out about the charts for a long time until somebody in the community mentioned it. I joined Facer after I received my first smartwatch as a gift. The stock faces that were offered by the OEM did not appeal to me, so I asked a colleague in technology for suggestions. Facer and another app were mentioned. The other app charged a fee. Facer would allow me to create what I had in mind for free. Having a background in art and already having the necessary tools, I got busy creating free designs for myself. Many were not so great, but they were mine. Soon I had my collection and was having a ball being slightly addicted to facing. Followers arrived and made requests. That gave me ideas for what others wanted. When I did not have time to deal with that, I explained that I could not accommodate their requests at that time, but perhaps later. If I was eventually able to create what they wanted, the idea of a “tip” would have been against my policy here as it is elsewhere. My primary satisfaction at Facer and in my volunteer work comes from making people happy and believing that God will provide. God was smiling on me. I received an invitation to become a Partner after I had created hundreds of designs just for fun.
Therefore, once again the bottom line is to just do what you like. Don’t worry about what others what. You can drive yourself looney trying to please everybody and being concerned with syncs and charts. That would definitely take the fun out of it.
I loved your message…congratulations!!!